Sunday, December 3, 2017

The Demons - S/T


edit: If you are just reading this for the first time, please take the time to visit the comments section. Guitarist Martin John Butler has been chiming in with some wonderful details about the history of the band. His input is priceless!

The Demons - S/T
Released 1977 on Mercury SRM-1-1164
Promo copy without inserts

For a few years now I have really wondered how many times bands that are credited with a certain sound are truly the creators of the sounds, and how many times they are just a product of the environment. We all know that AC/DC spawned thousands of imitators. We can figure this because after the enormous success of Back In Black we were suddenly faced with bands from the US and the UK that sounded very similar. In that case those bands were taking what made them a hit and using it to their own advantage.

But was the sound something they created? We can go back to Australia around the same time and find bands such as Rose Tattoo and The Angels. Both of these bands had similar sounds to AC/DC. So was it AC/DC or just the environment and trends in Australia during this time period that created more than a few bands with the same sound? AC/DC obviously being the most successful, due to management, song quality, or maybe pure determination (or all of the above), but bands like the aforementioned Rose Tattoo and Angels not being copy-cats, but actual peers running down the same roads.

One can even go back into the mid 60s, just as The Beatles were blowing up. The sound and style was not exclusive to them. They were a part of a scene. But when people look back now they tend to give The Beatles credit for what happened in music.

This brings us to The Demons. A band that is so set in their scene that without any form of knowledge of the band I knew exactly where they hailed from by the time the first chorus hit. For many people it might be thought that they are a copycat band, but a little research shows that they are very much a product of a time period in a location and a part of their scene.

Before we get too much further, and before people started getting ready to type in the comments that I am an idiot. Yes, The New York Dolls are without a doubt a cornerstone of that scene. It is hard to argue that they were not the catalyst for the underground scene in New York, and that spawned the Ramones. But there was shortly after a definite Rock and Roll sound that came about, with a lot of bands popping up doing almost the same thing. Whereas the Ramones had that 50s things going, they were relying on power chords. Bands like The Heartbreakers, however, were using full chords. A pretty big difference in the sound and impact.

So here we meet The Demons. The Demons were very much a part of the scene. Founding member of the aforementioned Heartbreakers Walter Lure was an early member (according to lead guitarist Martin John Butler's website). Vocalist Eliot Kidd was close friends with Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan (in his own words as can be read in the Legs McNeil book Please Kill Me). Kidd recounts many stories between himself and Thunders in the pages of Please Kill Me. This only helps add to it that this was not a copy of style, but rather contemporaries experiencing the same world.

The Demons were a five piece early Punk act out of New York in 1977. By my typing that sentence, if you know your music scenes you know exactly what The Demons sound like. The sound is text book on how to be a New York Punk/RnR band from the formative years of the mid to late 70s. Light on distortion, heavy on attitude, with a touch of the 50s and early 60s AM Rock and Roll founders added into the mix. The type of band that will sing a heartbreaking song about missing somebody ("What a Shame"), but then deliver a song about how much hate they have for somebody, with some pretty brutal lyrics. In fact, in Please Kill Me Kidd speaks about how the big difference between the 50s songs they loved and punk is in the lyrics (p. 260). He mentions that their material takes the songs to areas that were never approached before. In Eliot Kidd's own words ". . . basically punk rock was just rock and roll. We weren't taking music anywhere new . . . we were all at the age where we had grown up with pop radio: Buddy Holly, The Everly Brothers, Little Richard and Chuck Berry." (McNeil, p. 263)

So remember, we are talking about 1977 here. Don't think Punk of the hardcore variety that is now associated with the word "Punk." This is Rock and Roll with extra danger and attitude added. There is nothing here that couldn't be played on that radio. It is all just Rock and Roll. It doesn't even have the bite that would show up that same year from The Dead Boys or the Sex Pistols. The guitars are light on distortion, but just as dangerous.

The debut album, and only album, from The Demons, is a wonderful addition to the New York Punk / Glam scene. An album that should be in the collection of almost anybody who has an interest in 70s Glam or 70s Punk. Songs like "It'll Be Alright" and "She's So Tuf" are brilliant tracks that should be considered classics. "She's So Tuf" is textbook New York Rock and Roll. The dang thing should be one of those songs that everybody has covered.

The album features two cover tunes, one being a version of Gene Pitney's "She's a Rebel." The other being the band beating The Clash to the punch by delivering a blistering cover of "I Fought The Law" of its own. A notch down from the intensity of The Clash version, but still a wonderful version of the song.

The cover of the album is what caught my eye. It was actually Martin John Butler and Robbie Twyford that sold me on the album. Then the song titles. But in all honesty, I still am a little surprised by the sound every time I look at Robbie Twyford. He looks more like he should have fallen out of a British band circa 1967. The styles are a little mixed on the cover, but the dang guys still look incredibly cool.

The Demons were through and through Rock and Roll, and they were through and through New York. Musically they featured solid guitar work with those trademark flourishes from the area. Solid drumming and vocals that could have fit right in with The Dictators (Shernoff and Teeter).
A band that seriously needs to be preserved, and luckily one that at this moment in time can still be had from the used stores for a good price. But if the world begins to catch on, this thing is going to skyrocket in price. I think I paid around $5.00 for it, which is a steal.

So what became of The Demons? It seems that they met with some rather terrible fate. According to the website for Martin John Butler (lead guitar), the band was enjoying the success for this album, selling 250,000 copies even! But then tragedy struck and drummer Mike Rappoport was killed in a car accident. I don't know the details, and even that knowledge comes from a post on his guest book. He mentions the loss of Rappoport, but a friend chimes in mentioning the car accident aspect.

Eliot Kidd, the brains and voice behind the band, had also met with tragedy. This is according to the website Dead Punk Stars. According to them Eliot had done time due to dealing and eventually passed away in 1998.

Thankfully Martin John Butler has created a Facebook page for The Demons. It appears that Bob Jones, the other guitarist, is doing well and is still involved with music. Obviously his name would be a little bit harder to search on the internet, so as of this writing this is as far as I went in my research.

Mr. Butler's personal site seems to be a little out of date, but he appears to still be active. As I mention though he is running the Demons Facebook page, which can be found by searching Demons/NYC or by clicking https://www.facebook.com/The-DemonsNYC-101777063232690/. His personal site, with some newer music, can be found here: http://www.martinbutlermusic.com/home.html

As for Robbie Twyford, I have not been able to find anything. A search for Robbie turned up nothing. Scanning the Demons Facebook site also didn't show me anything. But who know, maybe one of the Demons will see this and give a little information.

sources:
McNeil, Legs. McCain, Gillian. Please Kill Me. Penguin, 1997.
Dead Punk Stars website - http://www.deadpunkstars.com/browse/153/eliot_kidd.html

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  3. First things first, thanks so much Carl. Your article is brilliant and well thought out, possibly the best piece ever written about us.. It's very close to what actually happened at the time. One day I'll tell the whole story, but for now, here are a few interesting facts. Eliot and Johnny Thunders were the closest of friends. We shared an apartment on 16th St & 8th Ave, when it was still a Spanish neighborhood. No fakes survived those streets then. Johnny used to hang at our place and was a friend of mine as well. Sometimes and we'd jam at 2:00 in the morning. I introduced Walter Lure to Johnny, although they may have crossed paths earlier and knew of each other a little, but I think I made the first real introduction. Walter was a friend, he'd joined me in a pickup band we played in one summer to have fun, and when I started The Demons with Eliot, I asked Walter to join us, which he did. We did some gigs in town, and eventually he was asked to join the Heartbreakers. The Heartbreakers had officially began without Walter, and had played some gigs already before Walter joined. Walter is still a friend of mine, and I'm glad he's been acknowledged for his talent. Michael Rappaport was killed when changing a tire on the Gowanus expressway, hit by a truck, and gone in seconds. He'd been living a wild life then, and we expected something like this to happen at any time. He'd grown as a person, (he joined The Demons late, before then, Billy O'Conner from Blondie was our drummer). We were close friends with all the bands then. At one time, the CBGB scene was only around fifteen of us, Elda Stilletto, Snooky and Tish and Debby Harry, Chris Stein, the Ramones and Television. Eliot was hanging with guys like Steven Tyler, and got heavily into drug use, he was arrested and spent time in Rikers island. A that moment, The Demons were scheduled to tour the world, with 180 dates booked with all the top Mercury artists, including David Bowie and Rush. We were #1 in 11 states, and the tour would have helped solidify our status. New management at Mercury (Danny Goldberg) dropped us because we were not available with our lead singer in jail indefinitely, and our drummer gone. What I wish was in existence was the two recordings we did before the album. One, a demo at Electric Ladyland with Hilly Crystal and Genya Raven behind us, and the other, the lost Live at CBGB vol II album. We were a much harder rocking band then. Producer Crail Leon led us into a lighter, more Pop/Punk sound that I fought tooth and nail against with Eliot. Many of our stronger songs live that I'd written were left off the album, supposedly being "saved" for album #2. I wrote "It'll Be Alright". It was about an affair with a married woman.

    You're correct in that we were a part of the sound, not imitators, but yes, the New York Dolls got there first, and deserve all the recognition in the world. We shared a loft with them on 23rd St, next to the Chelsea Hotel. I was a few years younger than they were, I began gigging at 14.

    I had a long term illness I've finally recovered from, and I am in the process of updating my website, and will have a new album released in January, 2018. I'll let you know more later on, gotta run right now. I think you'll enjoy this, it's a song I wrote about all the absent friends we've mentioned. It's the last track on the new album. https://soundcloud.com/martin-john-butler/goin-down-last-final-mix-4

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  4. I forgot to mention that Robbie Twyford passed over ten years ago. He too had serious drug issues. He was beloved and sorely missed by friends and family.

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    1. Martin,
      Thank you for checking out the piece! Thank you also for the compliment and for the wonderful information.
      That is really a shame about Michael being hit by a truck. If he had been living the wild life was there any surprise that it was being hit while changing a tire by a truck that killed him? Death at such a young age is always tragic, but that seems really a shame.
      How long was Eliot in jail for? Did you guys just call it quits once you were dropped? Was he in jail when Michael was killed? It seems like one crappy thing after another there.
      The Demons also fell victim to the mellowing out production? I would be very curious to hear what you guys were like. I think the album sounds great, but if you were a much harder band I could only imagine what the heartbreak must have been like to be misrepresented.
      Checked out the new tune from you. Holy crap that is a killer song! Very nice. I think I will be spending even more time on your Soundcloud. Great stuff all over the place there.
      Thanks again for stopping by and checking out the article. Keep me posted on new stuff happening and I will keep listing it here. I don't have a whole lot of readers right now, but I am pushing this site a bit more than I did my last ones. I did a print 'zine for a few years, but that eventually got to be too much with where life was at.

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  5. Great to hear from you Carl. From the insights you had into the scene in NY then, I think your blog will grow and succeed. I know a few good writers with blogs who are great music aficionado's, but your take on things is at another level entirely. It's much more like a true journalist wrote a piece.
    Michael was getting getting high, starting fights with Hell's Angels, and causing all sorts of trouble wherever he went. Yet, he was the sweetest soul of us all. He came into the band later, when we were clear that a record deal was imminent. Eliot and I slogged it out from the beginning.
    Eliot was in jail for four months then, but when he was released, he was completely occupied with his court case, neglecting the band. Mercury dropped us when he was still in jail. It was a case of the people who signed us leaving for another company, and the new people not knowing us personally. Since we weren't a big money maker yet, we were expendable to new management. It was a mistake on their part. We sold more albums in that brief time than anyone, with the probable exception of Patti Smith.
    The record deal offers had gone to Eliot's head, and he colluded with Craig Leon to try to control the band's sound. had they listened to me, we would have been a fair amount harder on the record. I always felt we were more like a Punk version of the Animals, than the punk/pop bands like the Knack and the Romantics later copied.
    There was a demo recorded at Electric lady that was way more like the band really sounded, but it's lost in time. We also did a monster set at CBGB that was supposed to be a Live at CBGB vol. II, but the other bands on the record had gotten famous, and their labels didn't want it released, so Hilly recorded over the master tapes. It had Mink DeVille, Blondie and others.

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  6. I haven't mentioned Bob Jones yet. Bob and I were close, more like brothers than anyone I've worked with. Losing our contract was difficult. We started a new band called The Very Few, and we had a great offer from Geffen, but musical differences made us go our separate ways unfortunately. Bob and I reconnected around five years ago, and are in touch now.

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    1. I saw the picture of Bob on your site. Very cool to know you two are back in touch. With only two of you left you almost have to stay in touch to a certain degree.

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  8. Also, I use my full name now so I don't get confused with the British comedian and classical composer who both have the same name. So, it's been Martin John Butler for a long time now.
    Also, vinyl rules! I'm friendly with Michael Fremer, senior editor at Sterephile, main guy at Analogue Planet, and all around brilliant music critic, audiophile reviewer, and musicologist. He almost single handedly saved the format.

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    1. I went in and changed everything to read Martin John Butler, except for one where I referred to you as Mr. Butler. May as well throw a little formality in to the mix.
      I have to admit that it wasn't until about 8 months ago that I fell back in love with vinyl. It is a long story as to what happened and why I fell back in love, but it has turned into an obsession again. Music always was, but the format of vinyl is back in my heart. I will also admit to still having a real big issue with modern new vinyl prices. I don't buy new, I only buy used. Plus, it is bands like The Demons that are my passion. Those great bands that should have been more than they became. The bands that only got one or two records out. Or even those bands that released more, but have been forgotten due to time. It has kind of become my mission to try and preserve those bands, bring them back to some people. It has always irked me that some bands are always played, but other bands, just as good, are completely lost to time.

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  9. Thanks Carl. Before The Demons, I had a band called Pandora when I was 16. It was before Punk was a thing, but the Dolls were playing around, and Lou Reed and David Bowie were mainstream by then. We went to Cleveland and recorded a demo in a loft with Joe Battaglia from a band called Granicus setting up the mics and recording s live. We disbanded when David Johansen asked our drummer and bass player, Frank LaRocca and Buy Verno to join him. Frank also played with Jon Waite, Tom Petty and produced the soundtrack to the movie Philadelphia that Springsteen won the Oscar for. Someone found an acetate of our demo and flipped out, showing it to various record companies, Arf Arf records released a CD of our demo without any contact with the band. They didn't know exactly who we were our how to find us. There's a small cult following online now, and Rolling Stone wrote about it. We found out only two years ago. Got Kinda Lost records is releasing a vinyl edition of our music in a few months. Here's a sample. Imagine what the band could have done with a good producer in a real studio! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynx2vM0XLiY

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    1. Sorry about the delay in response. I'm a fourth-grade teacher and I had my observation today, so I have been a little panicky these past few days and locked away in a box planning.
      I checked out the Pandora song on Soundcloud. I loved that one also. A buddy of mine, Sandy Hazard (drummer from the Canadian Pretty Floyd, McRackins, Dirtbag Republic and recently released Doll Hazard), REALLY loved the Pandora stuff after checking out your SoundCloud page.
      Friggin' Johansen.
      So you don't get any money from the Pandora release? I'll have to grab the vinyl edition, especially if any royalties come your way.
      Granicus was a killer band. I first heard them about 10+ years ago. It was a feather in my cap when a little later I read an interview with Julian Cope in which he claimed you really knew your music if you liked Granicus.

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  10. Great post! I just discovered this site while searching for more details on The Demons. I was always aware of them through the Walter Lure connection, and today I found a promo copy (like yours) of The Demons LP for $10.

    Band histories like this are invaluable, especially for the one-and-done bands that flew through NYC in the 70s. I mean...you have to be an Internet archaeologist to find anything solid about Cheap Perfume and others! Sounds like a book idea...

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  11. I've been looking for a reasonably priced copy of this record for years. No luck so far. To your point above, the world "caught on" and it's now a collector's item. Someday...

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